ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.
just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.
zion's watchtower 1881, january.
Lost in the fog - ask JW's exactly when the "last day" is/was scheduled for, and also for Bible proof of their timeline/chronology.
(John 6:39, 40, 44, 54)
39......but that I should resurrect them on the last day.
40.......and I will resurrect him on the last day.”
44.......and I will resurrect him on the last day.
54........and I will resurrect him on the last day."
(John 11:24) ".....Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day."
i was just thinking of an illustration that may apply.. what do we do if our computer operating system is corrupted?
perhaps through a virus, or because of outdated or corrupted technology?.
do we hang on to that computer because of sentimental reasons?
Had my computer's O.S. corrupted a few times over the years, mostly as a result of unwittingly allowing corrupt information to be absorbed by the hard drive. The solution was clear - format the hard drive and start with a "clean slate."
Likewise with the brain and the WTBTS's "viruses." Mentally wipe off what's been stored and start again - this time not allowing external influences to corrupt & control how your "O.S." functions.
....................which was rejected by the john lewis corporation who opted for a video which features a monster under a kid's bed!
pity.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_0biuzghg.
....................which was rejected by the John Lewis corporation who opted for a video which features a monster under a kid's bed! Pity.
sincere apologies if i've missed previous post/s on this topic, but who actually owns this nice little earner?
https://www.livekingdomhall.com/signup.
i've just been discussing this "provision" with an elderly jw sister who paid out over £100 for an apple box, in order to access her local congregation meeting when she didn't attend..
Sincere apologies if I've missed previous post/s on this topic, but who actually owns this nice little earner?
https://www.livekingdomhall.com/signup
I've just been discussing this "provision" with an elderly JW sister who paid out over £100 for an Apple Box, in order to access her local congregation meeting when she didn't attend.
i'm nearly at the end of my first month of becoming inactive.
only my daughter knows.
i've had a cold half of the month so no questions or pressure has been put on me yet.
Never forget that "silence is golden." Keep quiet as you fade.
You have a P.M. which may give you some hints on how to deal with the wolves - if they come sniffing around.
hello all, many years i have been lurking on this site.
gradually i’ve learned the real truth, gone from serving as a servant and at bethel to inactive for almost a year, barely ever wasting time going to meetings.
my family is large and very active and so is my wife’s so leaving altogether is difficult.. though it seems now that everything is about to change.
Welcome to the OPEN forum jc1985.
Sad that your "Christian" wife no longer wants to be married to you. Clearly she feels that her "spiritual endangerment" (non-Biblical phrase!) overrides 1 Corinthians 7:13, 14 - ".....if a woman has an unbelieving husband and he is agreeable to staying with her, let her not leave her husband. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife..."
I hope you come out of this relatively unscathed and stronger.
i was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.
but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.
we are not mindless automatons.
Welcome James. It's very unusual nowadays to find any JW's who's willing to talk about their beliefs.
I've sent you a PM. (little green envelope - top right)
it is christmas morning ....the weather outside looks cold grey and dismal (typical britain in winter ) the house is quiet as my wife gets on with something.
.... the street is silent, as dead as the grave.
the tv is full of the purile nonsense that fills airtime this time of year .
Hi Blues Brother, the festive season? The Mass of Christ (Christ mass day) has long ceased to be regarded as a holy day (holiday) for the vast majority of people around the earth who "celebrate" it. http://www.antipas.org/books/xmas/xmas2.html
How many individuals will actually mention the name "Jesus Christ" as they enjoy copious amounts of food and drink and get involved in the regulatory exchange of consumer products? It's become nothing more than a money-making "tradition" which many businesses depend on for their annual profit margins. Aren't you glad to be out of it? However, I don't want to dampen the joyous feelings of people on one of the rare days designed for happiness, gift-giving, and family get-togethers. Have a great time everybody.
how many months consecutively does a jw have to miss turning in time to be inactive?.
I've always understood that if a publisher does not submit a monthly report for 6 consecutive months, then they are automatically referred to as "inactive."
so i woke up this morning with nothing planned for the day.
i rolled out of bed around 9am and went to local mcky ds to get some breakfast, and lord and behold there was a group of jdubs sitting around eating and sipping on coffee, probable counting time.
anyway, i glanced over and recognized all of them and they glanced back at me.
MTSman - I can fully empathise with your feelings as my wife and I experienced the same self-righteous attitudes while we were still in and not woken up yet. However, since fading and researching & comparing WTBTS dogma with what the Bible really teaches, I don't feel anything but sadness for JW's who disdain those who don't conform with what their cult spouts. No JW (not even TPT of the GB) will ever make me feel slighted. I'm better than than them, because I've escaped - they're still in chains.
Undeniable fact: J.W.'s - whether elders or publishers - will very quickly terminate any Bible discussions which highlight an org falsehood. The J.W. cult-mentality dictates that their listening/reasoning abilities switch off if they hear any such Bible proofs. Grow in stature when confronted by such mental pygmies.
